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Old 07-20-2006, 01:50 AM
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Wholesale Airsoft Guns

I am looking for some nice cheap wholesale airsoft guns that i will hopefuly be able to try and sell on my website and out of my garage. If anyone knows of any good wholesale airsoft websites, please let me know. Thanx.
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Old 07-20-2006, 08:07 AM
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You may want to research local,state and federal laws concerning the sale of replica weaponery especially being the age you are.
Do you have a business license?
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Old 07-20-2006, 08:48 AM
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Federal Tax ID # is required by most wholesalers. (All, I beleive.)

Good starts:

www.spartanimports.com - Only place that you can get CA guns.


www.redwolfairsoft.com - Good overseas wholesaler. Although, its coming from Hong Kong, you're going to need a customs agent.


Fedex So far has been my companies best/cheapest customs agenet. We clear pretty much instantly coming through Canada with our tankers.


One note though.. you might want to re-think getting into the airsoft business. There's alot of people in it already, and some big retailers.
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Old 07-20-2006, 08:49 AM
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I've been to thier website and i really don't think they are the kind of kids you want to let get closer to more guns, sorry guys but on your videos you shot something off you freinds head while he was sleeping and had no goggles on.
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Old 07-20-2006, 09:10 AM
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Well we made that video after we had a huge battle outside. So we were kinda wound up. Also, we shot the cup of his head from 4 feet away. I wouldnt have let him do it if i thoght that he would miss. Anyways that video was made when we all just started playing airsoft. You notice we all have spring pistols. But now, 2 years later, we are more experienced.

And guys, i know i need a Tax ID and a Venders License. But before i apply for the ID and license i wanted to make sure that i was capable of finding the merchandise. I am trying to open up a small airsoft store and field in my area and i just want to have all of the equipment before i do anything.

Thanks for the help.
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Old 07-20-2006, 10:32 AM
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You'll have to forgive the vast majority of the community' skepticism, but we get about four of these type "offers" from young airsofters each month. And while your intentions seem honorable, 100% of them never come to fruition.

The largest factor in this is your age. As a minor, you would likely never be able to get the kind of cash flow needed to start up a business and would likely never get the insurance required.

A storefront is probably not going to happen until you are an adult with a strong established credit rating, strong positive financial backing, and equally strong insurance to cover your business and patrons. Unfortunately, that is not available to a minor and is usually only available to adults who insruance and financial institutions deem a reasonable investment.

You would be better off starting with an eBay or internet based business that can dropship items. This would not require storage facilities, overhead, or inventory. At least until you have enough positive cashflow to get the storefronts running.

Again, I apologize, but your age is a significant handicap in trying to make this happen. If you don't have an older family member that can get this off the ground for you, I don't see it happening.

On a second note, I find it highly unlikely that any of the local retailers would want to openly disclose their sources for wholesaler or distributors as that would basically be exposing their sources to not only their competitors, but their customer base as well. Not that it is really TOP SECRET or anything like that, but it is somewhat confidential information.
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I don't beleive you can get a Federal Tax ID till after the age of 18...

Might be your first hang up.

Secondly.. you're going to have to invest thousands of dollars to make this happen.

I even sat down with two people who run business' every day to see if it was worth my while to start a business, and the reality is, especially in the youngstown area - where I've grown up in - there is just not enough demand for high quality guns to justify a store here.

There's a handful of us that play, most of us have equipment that you wouldn't be able to supply anyways, let alone be able to afford.

It would be terribly easy for me to get the money to start a store, as well - I already have all the liceanses and the like. But, it's just not worth it. (heck, I even have office, retail, and warehouse space.)
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Old 07-20-2006, 09:57 PM
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Ok. I understand your concern but i will not be owning this shop. I will just be managing it until i am a legal adult. I do have a benefactor who agrees with me that opening a shop in this area would be a good investment. But he knows nothing of airsoft so i am going to practically own it, just he pays and signs his name on all the paperwork. He will be the one with the tax id and he does have alot of money saved up. So all i need are a few good wholesale companies and a good location.
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Old 07-20-2006, 11:45 PM
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I am not bashing the idea of opening another store, but this area has many reputable stores with many loyal customers. I am not saying you will not make money, but maybe you should consider selling bbs or something smaller before jumping into aeg's. The reason that I say this is that many stores actually lose money on them because of issues concerning the importation of them. I am no expert on that and I will not claim to be. The point I am making is that airsoft is a hobby/sport and that many people who participate feel loyal to their store of choice (be it Airsoft Arms, Combat Depot, Airsoft Smith, etc..)

The point I am trying to make is that if you are doing this to make tons of money or make a living, I can already assure you that you have chose the wrong business. The best route for you to take is selling airsoft accessories such as bb's and things of that nature.

If you are serious about selling guns, make sure you know how to fix them. I have been to many airsoft stores where new guns have arrived "damaged in shipping" and are in need of repair. Also places like airsoft arms will also be a strong competitor because they offer a 15 day warranty on aegs. (Correct me if I am wrong on this, going by the top of my head here). Anyway, point I am trying to make is that if you are going to sell the guns, please sell quality stuff and back it whole heartedly and not sell people crap.
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Old 07-21-2006, 10:03 AM
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I get what you are going for. Selling bbs would be nice, but there isnt one single airsoft store in my area. I live in Austintown. The only place around here to buy ANY airsoft gun is Walmart. And hey only have about 7 guns. And all 7 are either C02 or one of those ****ty AEG's that run on AA batteries. Everyone who plays in my area complains that there are no shops anywhere even near us. Nor is there a field. That is why i want to open up a shop. No competition. Everyone will be coming to my shop. And i do know how to fix AEGs and other guns. That is why right now, my friends and I repair everyone elses gun. We only charge them $5 plus whatever parts they may need. And my store is not going to be selling JUST AEGs. Infact, i never started this thread asking for AEG wholesale. I am going to sell everything. Accessories, BBs, Guns, everything. That iw why before i make purchases of the accessories, i want to have the guns first. Because everyone in my area is tired of waiting 10 weeks to get a gun in the mail. Also, i refuse to sell a person a piece of **** gun. Really, i am not in this to make money. I mean, ya im going to, nut that isnt why i want to start this. I really just dont want people getting screwed over by buying what they think looks cool on the internet. Alot of people buy guns without researching them first. So i want to help people learn more about airsoft. I really want to make airsoft a BIG thing in my area. That is my main goal.
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You forgot the 18 year old LAW about buying airsoft weapons.
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You forgot the 18 year old LAW about buying airsoft weapons.
He also is saying alot of things that make it appear far less likely this will ever happen.

His "benefactor" is willing to sign over money for a 16 year old to open a business. This guy either needs to be slapped or maybe I should hit him up for a loan. Ask him if he can "benefact" me, I need a new car and have experience driving.
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I only see a couple of problems with this. First one being if you're waiting 10 weeks for a gun..theres a problem with your retailer, and you need to find a new one. Second one being it's illegal, (or so I thought) to sell airsoft guns to minors. Third being like dustin said there are more than enough retailers that are reputiable and reliable in ohio. So for you to try and compete with them won't be worth it. As far as making airsoft big in your area you also have to make airsoft education big in your area not just to your frieds who are too lazy to google WELL and DE and realize they aren't good guns. Your mayor,police force, towns people ect. need to know you are safe and honorable people and airsoft is building team work and keeping people healthy. Not shooting stuff off of each others heads at night, I don't care about excuses or any other kind of circumstances you think you had under control fact of the matter is it happened and people can spin that anyway they want.
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TEXX, bravo!!

Airsoftarmy, while looking at your "team" website, your profile says OWNER. You are a owner of a airsoft team? I thought a airsoft team is a TEAM not a business.Paying a due to be on a team and paying a fee to be advanced in rank? Charging people $5 to fix their LPEG's?
And now you want to start a shop? Where does the fee/dues go to? THE OWNER?
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Ok. To all 3 of you.
1. I already have all the Tax IDs and vendor licenses. Ok. I know more about business than you think. Im not some stupid little 16 year old who just wants to open a store. I know everything i have to do. I have all the funds. All i need is to find the guns.

2. My benefactor is my father. He knows barely anything about airsoft besides what he hears come out of my mouth. But he also agrees that there are no good shops like that around my area. The closest Airsoft store is 3 1/2 hours away. I dont think that if i open a store, i will be competeing with them.

3. I know that you are not allowed to sell guns to minors, that is why they must have an adult. Just like any other store.

4. I have already talked to the cops about this stuff and i know i need to educate people. That is why my team and i hold an Airsoft Education meeting every 6 months at our school. Since it is at our school, anyone can walk in and listen to us talk.
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Oh, and blackfox, btw, that 10 weeks thing was sarcasm. Sorry. i should have said that when i posted that reply.
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Please post your schools name, address and the time you will be doing this airsoft education class. Maybe some of the AO members in your area would show up.
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I will gladly post the time if i had any idea when it was. School is about to start in a couple of weeks and we have to talk to the principal about when we are able to have use of the auditorium or cafeteria.

But anyway, our school's name is Fitch High School and it is located in Austintown
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When was the last "seminar"?
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Old 07-21-2006, 11:08 AM
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Wow.

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Ok. To all 3 of you.
1. I already have all the Tax IDs and vendor licenses. Ok. I know more about business than you think. Im not some stupid little 16 year old who just wants to open a store. I know everything i have to do. I have all the funds. All i need is to find the guns.
The problem is, you don't really have any credibility here and as far as we know, yes you are just a "stupid little 16 year old who just wants to open a store." From the antics on your team's website, I would say that assessment is the most accurate thing you've posted in this entire thread.
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Roger that on the AO members comin down. Also roger that ont he cred here with us. You must understand that you have 0 right now. Thats why we are scrutnazing.
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Antics. If you are talking about what happened in that one video, fine call us retards. Call us immature. I really dont care. All i want to know is if anyone has any good websites of wholesale airsoft guns. Please stop trying to give me tips and criticiseing me. I have some idea of what i am doing. If you dont like it, so what. Its my choice. It's not like im hurting anyone but me. All i asked was for some help finding wholesale airsoft guns.

If you wont help me with that, then just leave me the **** alone.
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What you did 1 year ago or 2 weeks ago determines your status in the airsoft community. Showing videos that are down right unsafe on your website shows that you condone these type of acts. Teaching students at your school about airsoft and then you display this video on your website? If anyone(principal,police chief) would ever see that video, they would rethink your involvement in teaching responsible airsoft to students are going your school.
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What are you talking about. Dont ask the question? The only thing i ever ASKED was if anyone had any good airsoft wholesale websites. Why is it that all you want to do is criticise me . And why cant you just answer my simple question. That is all i want. Some good wholesale websites.
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Please understand. All we have to go on are the immature videos on your website. You don't really care, which is obvious from the content of your videos. That makes you incredibly dangerous to yourselves and others.

We're supposed to believe that irresponsible 16 years old players are going to be responsible enough to run an airsoft business which you are called to make responsible decisions and promote your hobby in a responsible manner?

Secondly, you then dismiss those concerns, claiming you don't care. The problem is, you should care how you and your team are portrayed as it gives you credibility. Your videos seems to boast of stupidity and immature behavior. That severely hurts your chances of being taken seriously by any respectable airsofter.

What you are doing is hurting your team, your business, your hobby, and your customer base. You want customers to trust you to give them service when you can't even be trusted to act responsibly? Most of all, you make yourself to look a complete fool with this entire argument that you're responsible when the actions of your teams say otherswise.

You asked for help finding a wholesaler and you were given that help.

You don't care, but you should. That's why I don't believe any of this and why most others don't either. If you don't care about fundamental safety, then chances are, your business will never succeed. No one in their right mind would insure an irresponsible 16 year old's business ambitions.

And even if you were able to succeed with "Daddy's Money," I would hope to god you were shut down for lack of safety and respect. You damn well better care what the airsoft community thinks of you. Retailers are the front line on defending the hobby as they are responsible for ensuring and promoting safety. Its in your best interest, as a business man, to do so or the local authorities will shut you down.

If you can't do that, then STFU.


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Antics. If you are talking about what happened in that one video, fine call us retards. Call us immature. I really dont care. All i want to know is if anyone has any good websites of wholesale airsoft guns. Please stop trying to give me tips and criticiseing me. I have some idea of what i am doing. If you dont like it, so what. Its my choice. It's not like im hurting anyone but me. All i asked was for some help finding wholesale airsoft guns.

If you wont help me with that, then just leave me the **** alone.
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