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How does the community feel about a quadcopter with a mounted camera? I was thinking that it could make Milsim events like BF or Dark Horizons a little more realistic. I'm looking for input on how everyone thinks about this, but please no posts that say this is a bad idea without a reasonable explanation. thanks everyone
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:51 PM
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Periodically we see threads like this, essentially suggesting UAV drones be used in airsoft games.

I'll leave airspace regulations alone, as I'm no expert, however you'd need to take into account the fact that it will inevitably become a target for players in game.

If you run a search, you'll find these threads.
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Old 10-24-2012, 08:11 PM
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Spencer is right, do a quick search and you will find a couple threads about this topic.

My main concern would be, like Spencer said, it would eventually become a target.

You could have 20 safety briefings and speak with each player off to the side privately and inform them that no one is to shoot the drone period - but there will always be that ONE joker who will think they are cute / smart / funny / or just an a-hole and will shoot it.

It would become a very expensive and likely short lived toy.

As for private games or games with a decent ref presence... I could see it doing alright to be honest.
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Not if your drone has a high ceiling altitude. If it was a live feed camera, that would nice thou.
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Not if your drone has a high ceiling altitude. If it was a live feed camera, that would nice thou.
How high ceiling are you talking? There are several problems with that. One major one is FAA restrictions.
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Sounds like he is talking about FPV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Person_View) I always wondered if it had an application in airsoft....
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The range is too limited and 3/4 of the year you will take pics of the tops of trees. Plus its a target and an expensive one at that.
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I will start off with that if you do a quick search you will find several threads on the subject. Also that some one at some point will sadly shoot at it, especially at Bling Furry. The range for video use from say one of those AR Drone things is limited but just long enough you could still use it (same goes for the battery). How ever that could still make things fun in you have a small "Spec Ops" team go in kinda close to an enemy position and then deploy it could have some use and fun to it.

On the FAA thing; if you are using an AR Drone those should be fine as far as that. My Father owns one and while they can go pretty high up I dont think that they go far enough for the FAA to worry about it. But dont hold me to that I by no means know FAA regs.

but before I get to far in thought with this whole thing yes there are several threads on this and I think most of this has been discussed before
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High Ceiling should be about 200-300 feet, also to deflect stray shots, just add some protection to it.
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200-300 feet would make it pretty BB resistant.

Not only is that the max range of guns, but it would be fighting the laws of gravity going up, as well as stronger winds, the higher you go up. So BB's would get to the point of not harmful if it did get hit (doubtful) with leading it, trees, wind, etc. It would be a tough target.

The other issue has already been pointed is tree top cover. With the trees we have in Ohio, unless they're standing out in a field - it's going to be hard to use. Now, some place like springfield - where the big fight is always around a field, it would be helpful for the attacking team to have some intel.
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Range has nothing do with it,you can easily boost range anytime. Problem is people shooting it down as others mentioned. While it would be awesome for quads to be used,I don't see this as practical in the long run. Unless you build cheap aircraft which you don't care about being shot at,then it probably is not worth it.
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I would like to add that since you don't want a UAV to be a target you don't want it hovering, you want it circleing the battlefield.
Also you want a very good video camera being used.
This obiviously makes the cost of being high, but it is possible.

http://ardrone.parrotshopping.com/us...rone_main.aspx

IF you use the product above and mod it, you might have a decent drone.
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One of the guys on my team just picked one up! Looking forward to playing with it this weekend =)
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I was looking into this early this year and I found this sight. http://rc-drones.com/
And. http://www.diydrones.com/
If you wanted to check it out.
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Meh, just shoot the operator. If he wants to ruin my fun to give intel to his side, I can ruin his pretty smile with a few well placed shots.
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We are going to use it as a prop for the players when we have an OPFOR. I thought it would be a cool way to give the players info.
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Alright so currently in my state (south carolina) and I believe FAA law states UAV's are allowed under 200 feet (min aircraft atl is 500 over populated areas). Now most of you guys want these big old flying contraptions, but if/when I get the money I am going to do what they do over here in Astan and do a blimp with a camera.

The blimp will be tethered, they can waste all day shooting at it, and I'll make sure the camera can take a hit. Beyond that my two bigest concerns are, wireless or wired video.

Also you guys can make UAV's that can be shot all day and not get hurt especially with 500 or less FPS, but the biggest issue is flight time for most of these things, which is generally less then optimal. That and whatever ever receiver you have.

My other project some day will be the two wheeled little robot some of the troops have carried (might have seen it in a game or two). The reciever for the real thing is terrible, and it has a 30 minute operating time, it is a good recon device. I'll have to see if I can build one like they did, or get the body of one.
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I personally own one of these and fly it all the time (indoor and outdoor). These are great for producing videos of the events but that is about it. I DO NOT recommend using these to benefit a team on the field. Yes, they are maneuverable but I’m telling you from personal experience, any further away from the pilot then about 40yds and they become much harder to pilot and the signal from your tablet to the drone will be very poor. There is no way that you are going to get this drone to reach an altitude of 300ft, it physically will not go that high. Even if it did, you would have hardly any control over it and you would be unable to get any usable video from that distance.

I would focus more on people using these who want to produce videos of the event rather than participate. You’re going to need a lot of Lipo batteries and a tablet that will run the drone’s app for hours if you want to use it. It can very easily be used in the woods as long as you have an experience pilot flying it. I will say that the first time it gets hit by a bb (accident or not), it will come crashing down. The outer shell is Styrofoam and the blades are just plastic, it is not meant nor can it be used in a “simulated combat” scenario.

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I would like to add that since you don't want a UAV to be a target you don't want it hovering, you want it circleing the battlefield.
Also you want a very good video camera being used.
This obiviously makes the cost of being high, but it is possible.

http://ardrone.parrotshopping.com/us...rone_main.aspx

IF you use the product above and mod it, you might have a decent drone.
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