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Old 06-09-2007, 07:56 PM
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Airsoft Ohio should not be the answer when you are bored!

Guys, I know you are trying to create as much HAVOC as you can until the new moderator is being nominated but PLEASE, it is not because you are bored that you absolutely need to annoy all AO members with your "I was bored so I posted blablabla.".

If you are bored, just read instead. Find teams around you, shop for a good retailer, do something but DON'T POST USELESS THREADS!

Here is one trick for the new guys out there; Every time you post something pointless, useless or just something you were bored, you lose (or don't gain) any respects from AO members or any veterans willing to give you help in other occasions.

All in all, please stop posting for nothing!!! At the speed we are going the "off topic" section might be bigger than the "airsoft general section" before the end of the year....
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Old 06-09-2007, 08:28 PM
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You have a point. Athough I agree with limiting posts of this sort, I don't think we should ban them all togther. The problem occurs when one person starts several of these threads simultaneously.

Would these threads be getting negative attention if they hadn't been worded this way?

We need to be out shooting each other more and this sort of thing wouldn't happen.(like showing up at BattlePriest's event)
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Old 06-09-2007, 08:34 PM
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Evil Head. the result is the same. if you want to keep the veterans active (which i am sure we all want to), you need to make sure the posts mentioned above stay to the minimum possible.
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Are you implying that veterans are going to be chased off by large number of pointless posts? Is that how that happens? Veterans need to complain less and contribute more worth wild posts, not run when the new people start over posting.
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Old 06-09-2007, 08:47 PM
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nope. What I mean and we can agree or disagree all nights, people lose interest when there is more pointless stuff than good stuff to read. Right now, there are more threads about player's mom, dog, school, car, possible gun they will buy in 3 years than actual gun reviews, upcoming event, after action comments.

I will do a stupid generalization here but as of now, you have those posting pointless stuff, you have those getting tired of the pointless stuff and then you have those who doesn't give a rat $##@ about it but also don't get involved in anything else in the community anyway....
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Blade, I don't want you to go away. So here is what I propose. How about a 1to 2 day limit on pointless off topis posts. Two days max and then the thread locks. If you can't comment in that time then you lose your chance.
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Old 06-09-2007, 08:58 PM
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that sounds resonable, though I might extend that to three days, or no activity for a day.
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Evil Head, LOL...
No rules will stop players to come and go so we might say what ever we want, some players will not accept any compromises will others will live with it without problems. No matter what, I am not about to leave because I have a tough skin but perhaps you should be more worries about the other guys
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Who are these guys? Do you know players who are leaving because of an "I am bored thread". Do those players need a hug?

All kidding aside. Perhaps the reason there is a call for new mods is because there just aren't enough of them to keep up the house cleaning. Yes, these threads you speak of need to be cleaned up. Hopefully that will change soon.
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I'm going to wing it and give it a guess that my thread "internet scavenger hunt" is what started this. While i did make it out of boredom it actually has a real prize to it and has some worth. While I agree that completly pointless post's should be limited, ones that are made out of boredom aren't all bad. Just look at that one battery thread. Somebody was bored so they made that. Just because somthing is invented by boredom doesn't make it bad.
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Old 06-09-2007, 09:57 PM
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Bubba,

I agree ...but it doesn't make the boredom an excuse for all the other pointless threads
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Triarius,
I was in the chat room with everyone and you have no context for Dubs comment. He is joking. Blade was acting silly for fun and Dub was just telling eveyone how funny it was. And yes the story about Blade in his underwear came up again. His red and white maple scented underwear.

Now Dubs, this is what you get when you post something out of context. You kind of deserve it. You can't post something like this when only a few of us know you were joking. Delete your post!
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Old 06-09-2007, 11:06 PM
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I know, I fully acknowledge the fact that the post is completely out of context and 99% of people who read it won't get it. and the truth is I really don't care, but hey I will delete the post, due to the fact that someone asked me to.
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Old 06-09-2007, 11:17 PM
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Triarius, while I do appreciate your support, you and everyone else here should always check twice before believing what is said. I actually join AO at the beginning of it. In fact, I joined the company in 2000, when most OH players were on www.airsoftzone.com . so yeh, that makes me even older than you think
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Old 06-09-2007, 11:33 PM
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so... I take it you guys are like 26-27ish? [/brown-nosing]
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Fair enough. True there was no context, but there was no j/k or which being present woud have had me just pass it by.
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Back on topic, although the off topic threads have gotten bigger lately, i think its kind of a good thing. Granted some of it has been pretty off the wall and beyond what may "should" take place, but remember.

Balance.

We all want the sport to grow, so we have more ppl to shoot at/with, more friends to make. While some of the posts may be out of hand (where a mod comes into place i suppose), its gotten ppl active. Alot more than what i used to see. Veterans are great, but without new ppl, veterans can die off, whether its boredom, families, new finances.

So if new guys want to post some off topic stuff, then by all means go ahead. Just dont flood the boards with it and keep it within the forum rules boundaries.

I love how the level of experience is measured by who joined the boards first. If you look up my username, i've only been here a few months...................Under this username. I've been here many of year, but just recently started posting. I've been here since 2003. My old team used to be listed in those long lost "Team Pages" links.
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While I agree that completly pointless post's should be limited, ones that are made out of boredom aren't all bad. Just look at that one battery thread. Somebody was bored so they made that. Just because somthing is invented by boredom doesn't make it bad.
The fact that a thread is made out of boredom isn't a problem, its the fact that the thread doesn't pertain to airsoft that bothers me. For instance the battery thread, made out of boredom but it is still useful airsoft information.

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While some of the posts may be out of hand (where a mod comes into place i suppose), its gotten ppl active. Alot more than what i used to see.
Yes the forums are more active, but I tend to get on and check them less and less when 90% of the activity is only 10% related to airsoft.

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Veterans are great, but without new ppl, veterans can die off, whether its boredom, families, new finances.
Airsoft is growing no matter what. We don't need to worry about getting new people, what we need to worry about is not allowing a mass amount of new people to ruin it for the veterans. Yes veterans will leave, that is life. But we shouldn't help push any away.

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So if new guys want to post some off topic stuff, then by all means go ahead. Just dont flood the boards with it and keep it within the forum rules boundaries.
That won't work. You can say it, and it sounds like a good safe way to keep everyone happy, but a month from now it won't make one bit of difference that we said that we just shouldn't flood the boards. More new people will come and see that the off topic forums is place to make random ADD threads and AO will continue to be flooded with useless junk. In my personal opinion, I think we should either do a heavy crackdown on the material in it, or eliminate the off topic forum and put the small amount of useful information from it in the general discussion. I think we need to be keeping AIRSOFTohio and AIRSOFT based forum.
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Guys, we do have a "chat" for a reason. If you're bored, head over there and chat it up with some people instead of posting a "useless" thread. The chat is less dependant on the factual parts of airsoft and is mostly used for social activity/interaction with other players.

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I can say that after five years of being on AO that there are more new guys who have contacted me to play in the past year than there were in the previous four. This is, I believe, because of the change in AO which made it "friendlier".

AO used to be stuffy with "veterans" putting every post under a microscope and hurling insults and rants at every post. As long as the useless/stupid posts stay contained in one area, what is the harm?

If the "veterans" are threatened by goofy posts, stay away from the "off topic" forum. I never go there, so it doesn't bother me at all.
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The fact that a thread is made out of boredom isn't a problem, its the fact that the thread doesn't pertain to airsoft that bothers me. For instance the battery thread, made out of boredom but it is still useful airsoft information.



Yes the forums are more active, but I tend to get on and check them less and less when 90% of the activity is only 10% related to airsoft.



Airsoft is growing no matter what. We don't need to worry about getting new people, what we need to worry about is not allowing a mass amount of new people to ruin it for the veterans. Yes veterans will leave, that is life. But we shouldn't help push any away.



That won't work. You can say it, and it sounds like a good safe way to keep everyone happy, but a month from now it won't make one bit of difference that we said that we just shouldn't flood the boards. More new people will come and see that the off topic forums is place to make random ADD threads and AO will continue to be flooded with useless junk. In my personal opinion, I think we should either do a heavy crackdown on the material in it, or eliminate the off topic forum and put the small amount of useful information from it in the general discussion. I think we need to be keeping AIRSOFTohio and AIRSOFT based forum.
Well getting mad at kids who want to come here and post some off topic things isnt going to help. Alot of these guys havent gone to games and would like to but arent just going to "show up". Chatting on the boards helps alleviates that.

The problem with chat is that person can sit in the room for a while bfore anyone ever enters. Thats why theres an airsoftohio.com forums instead of an airsoftohio IRC room.

I dont see why it bothers everyone so much. Do you go to games and discuss nothing but airsoft? There are ways around it. Granted it takes time from mods, but you can modify the message alert system to be user chosen to include off topic or not.

What do you mean it wont work? Its as simple as defining appropriate off topics and implimenting it in a sticky. Any thread out of that range gets deleted and a message sent explaining why.
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Mavrick, I don't think anyone gets mad at kids for posting boring threads, it is just a matter of losing interest in AO when you are more annoyed to read than actually enjoy....it is very simple. New guys will not be pissed their thread are being deleted, if they can't understand why, they will do like other new guys did before; they asked why their posts were deleted. Then they will understand what was wrong and will adjust.

Now, people are saying "if it annoy you so much, just don't read them". Yeh, in a way, it makes sense but at the same time, I am trying to help the community as much as I can. It is not because my own backyard if free from garbage that I should not worried about my neighbor 50 gallons of oil leaking in the ground

As I community, we have to help and support each other. The "mind your own business" and "don't watch if you don't like" attitude will not help. In fact, just take a look at www.airsoftretreat.com and you will exactly know what I am talking about".

Now being said, there is a thread about finding new moderator. did AO selected one yet?

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I'll say the same thing I say to my own forum members who complain when I close off topic threads, even if they are in the funny stuff forum (Which is the only off topic forum we have at ASF)

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Replace all the "Airsoft Forum" references above with "Airsoft Ohio"... and that pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter.

At ASF we have the "Funny Stuff" section only because I am forced to keep it by the site owner. I would have axed it years ago if I could.

At ANY forum that is related to a specific topic, the one place most ALL conflicts and flame wars start is in OFF TOPIC and COMEDY related forums. Why you ask? To use Airsoft as the example. On an Airsoft Forum, people USUALLY come to the forum because they ARE airsofters, or want to become airsofters. This means all members of the forum have one big thing in common... airsoft. While there may be disagreements in things relating to airsoft, those disagreements don't usually result in hatred.

BUT.... in Off Topic forums, you always end up with topics relating to Religion, Politics, Money, Race, Culture, Comedy and Entertainment. These are the 7 things most likely to cause people to anger. They are the things that separate people. Separation and differences cause conflict, which cause anger and hatred.

Two people who have been co-existing harmoniously as airsofters will suddenly stop talking once one finds out that the other shares a socio-political and religios opinion vastly different from his own.... and etc...

Then of course you have the problems like the one you speak of... the Off Topic junk gets annoying and frustrating... driving people away just for the sake of the annoyance.

You want to dump the junk? Then you have two choices. Dump the junk entirely... remove Off Topic from the forum. OR get dedicated mods who are willing to spend every waking moment, or get a LOT of mods who can cover the forum every minute of every day between them... and actually MODERATE the forum.

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Now, people are saying "if it annoy you so much, just don't read them". Yeh, in a way, it makes sense but at the same time,
As I community, we have to help and support each other. The "mind your own business" and "don't watch if you don't like" attitude will not help. In fact, just take a look at www.airsoftretreat.com and you will exactly know what I am talking about".
Thats why i brought up that the forums can be modified to include or not include off topic messages in the "new posts" system. It solves the problem that some have "i'm tired of logging in and seeing all new posts in the off topic section", and yet, those that want to see off topic can.

Should it be limited, sure. Selling 360s for cash should be done on ebay or some other appropriate site. Thats abuse of free advertisement. As well as some of the other posts.

As for maintaining the rules, thats where mods come in. But no matter how hard they work, there will always be complaints.
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The question is do they contact you asking you what gun you own or they ask you how they can trade Playstation in the trading section?
We have added 12-15 guys to our group this year alone. The 3-4 useless PMs I have received have been WELL worth it.

I can appreciate your angst, but I can say as a one-time AO hater that five years ago I didn't join because I thought that many of the veterans were uber-elitist snobs. If you want to get teens (spelled f-u-t-u-r-e) involved, you are going to have to get used to goofy, teen posts and threads. I think their goofiness is pretty well contained to the off-topic forums, so I don't see what the problem is.
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