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Scar H DMR build?

I've been think about building another set up, and I've always wanted a SCAR H and a DMR. So that's the easy part, I want your opinions and advice, and maybe if one of you has stuff I'm looking for, I might want it. And no I don't like the SSR, though I considered it.

VFC SCAR H black (no 2 tone/ tan)
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=9595
Madbull PWS SRX
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...ducts_id=12615
Dboys scar barrel extension to extend barrel to the end of the PWS SRX (already have)
Mad bull gemtech black side suppressor roughly 155mm long (already have)
Magpul afg 1 black (already have)
4x optic
Mad bull tbb
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=1231
v hop
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=4007
M130 spring
SHS full metal tooth piston
One piece cylinder
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...ducts_id=12776
Aluminum piston head
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=2268
Modify Deans wiring harness
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...ducts_id=14334

So we have a black SCAR H with the PWS SRX, ACOG, AFG1, and suppressor beginning right at the end of the PWS SRX. Should shoot around 430-450. I don't plan on doing this until spring/summer, so don't bomb me with sales, unless it's small stuff. Thanks for all you though, input, and time.
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Old 12-08-2013, 04:42 PM
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If you're looking for a MK17 build here are some good examples.

















Hope these help with your build!
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Thanks! The two pictures above the bottom 2 pictures both have the PWS SRX installed. And I've received input about using a prowin hop up and v hop. Does a prowin work in a SCAR H? http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...ducts_id=11367
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v hop http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=4007
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Old 12-08-2013, 04:59 PM
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I believe MK16's and MK17's both use a proprietary hop up. Then again, I may be wrong.
I know the DBoys Scar-L has an independent hop up. Not sure about VFC.
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Old 12-08-2013, 05:03 PM
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All Mk17 hopups are proprietary. You are stuck with the one you have. Its not terrible, but you will need to do DIY mods to it. I'll leave that to you to figure out. That's what it truly means to build a precision rifle.

lol burst wizard "mosfet"...
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Old 12-08-2013, 05:10 PM
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If you're looking for mosfets then Black Talon Concepts are the only ones worth spending your money on. http://www.btcairsoft.com/
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Or none. Build it right and your contacts will remain just fine. If you have overcycling issues its a symptom of another problem.
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yes "mosfet", but its AB and my other scar has a high rof, and it has a "DMR setting" which limits it to semi only, and you can also set a minimum time between shots for a more realistic DMR role. And it doesn't have to be hardwired , although it can be.
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yes "mosfet", but its AB and my other scar has a high rof, and it has a "DMR setting" which limits it to semi only, and you can also set a minimum time between shots for a more realistic DMR role. And it doesn't have to be hardwired , although it can be.
AB fet? I guess you hate your motors...
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AB fet? I guess you hate your motors...
How so? I don't know this effect.

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How so? I don't this effect.
The way it was explained to me was that the AB 'fet basically does the same thing as slamming the brakes vs slowing gradually in a car. It will stop faster, but it will damage the motor in the process.
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That makes sense. Thanks.
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Have you considered maybe choosing the VFC SSR instead. From your eternal parts list, it would allow you to accomplish many of the same goals aethetically, including the barrel length. The additional $100 spent, you could re-purpose some of the other items, or sell them outright. Just a thought.

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AB fets send a "reverse" flow of current into the motor to counter the spinning armature giving you that snappy on-off motor function. The problem with this is that it generates heat and destroys the armature of the motor over time. Depending on how much you use the rifle, you will wear the motor out. I've worn several out. However in my experience mosfet units neither provide the intended functions or prove to be reliable. You can disable full-auto mechanically using a simple selector plate mod, and any semi-auto marksmanship rifle in real-life can churn out lead as fast as you can pull the trigger.

There's an old TM M14 sitting a few feet away from me right now that shoots ~520ish and has the original wiring harness. Shoots beautifully. Doesn't have any of the fancy over-marketed hopup stuff or mosfets in it. Old school.
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Have you considered maybe choosing the VFC SSR instead. From your eternal parts list, it would allow you to accomplish many of the same goals aethetically, including the barrel length. The additional $100 spent, you could re-purpose some of the other items, or sell them outright. Just a thought.

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I have considered the SSR, but I like the unique look I plan to achieve with this build. Plus the SSR is $500, and the SCAR H with the PWS SRX is the same price ($390 + $110=$500).

Also I decided to not go with the mosfet since I plan to keep the stock motor. I should have zero overspin problems, and manually adjusting the selector plate with probably make EO happier that a 430-450 DMR could not shoot FA.

Also, does anyone know the quality of the wiring that VFC scars come with? All I've heard is negative, so I added modify deans wiring to the list. Not sure if I would resolder to the wire connectors in the stock for the "hidden wiring" appeal or if I will straight dremmel from the stock plate into the stock.
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I don't know if the VFC wiring is the same in the Scar as it is in the M4.. but all the VFC M4's I've worked on had wire problems. (Plug the battery in and get no response at all) I personally don't like VFC wiring. I want to say the problems occur in the fuse box, that can be easily taken out and if that doesn't do the trick, its the trigger connectors not cooperating.
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I own one of the VFC MK17's. The wiring is fine so long as you don't cram them into the stock trying to fit a battery. The real problem related to electronics is the lubricant VFC has decided to use. Its white lithium, and the worst thing you can use in any airsoft gun. Why? Because when you run high current/heat across white lithium it burns. Hence bad trigger issues. Remove it and replace with a dielectric silicon grease.

You will want a better motor.
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Scar H DMR build?

Update: while the forums were down I got my scar h it's an echo 1 that's 2 years old but never fielded through RNA and he's selling a bunch of stuff and gave me a great deal, highly recommended.

So far I have my afg, foam filled silencer, element high torque, madbull 6.03 363mm with v hop nub and wired to deans. I'm soon to install a full metal rack piston & piston head, metal spring guide, and m140, along with radii sing the gb.
I have a deal set on an acog, but I'm still looking for midcaps, the pws SRX, VFC mk17 air nozzle, and one piece cylinder. If you have these, please pm. Thanks for all your help along the way.
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