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You may have seen me on AS, and I know who you are talking about better than you do as I've been there much longer. The fact of the matter is that JohnGol10 is a 15 year old who knows a thing or two about military gear. He believes himself to be some sort of guru but he isn't. A lot of new members flock to him for help because he is the one who openly flaunts his knowledge.

I don't post a ton on this forum anymore, but I do still read around. Its a lot more knowledgeable. It has tons of ex-military or LE, and honestly you'd do better to take your advice from those here than from those as AS.
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Old 11-21-2010, 10:42 AM
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Just a thought. Will most people know if your loadout is 100% correct or not? I know I wouldn't and could really care less
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Old 11-21-2010, 10:46 AM
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Just wanted to comment on your pursuit of an accurate loadout. I think that is great, a fun part of the whole airsoft thing. There are guys on AO (many on this thread, like Kong and Red) that have been down that path many years and can help you with your gear accuracy. Good luck with putting your kit together.

That being said, here's my whole take on trying to adhere to a 100% accurate loadout (b/c I've been down that road myself):

1) Plan on spending a boatload of money. I mean a BOATLOAD to get every accurate piece down. Most high rollers will even say that to use china-made replicas misses the mark, and you must get the real gear. That's debatable of course. And try to buy used pieces from others on AO and other airsoft forums; you'll end up saving a LOT of money.

2) Once you have all of your thousands of dollars of gear purchased and loaded up, be sure to take a picture of yourself in all that stuff... and bask in the glory of conquering the "perfect" loadout. You'll likely sell off a good bunch of it sooner than your realize.

3) Hit the field, and enjoy... looking at yourself. You might get a few props here and there from others, but not as many as you'd think. Not to be a downer, but one of the things I quickly realized is, "What good is it to have such an accurate and expensive kit, when the 100's of players around me mix and match and could care less? In the sea of the ad-hoc misfit army, now I'm the one that stands out and looks out of place?" Yeah, you'll have that "army of one" feeling for sure. That is, unless you can find a team that you can join that all wears exactly the same loadout.

4) The more accurate your kit is (say like 90+%), the more the high rollers will nitpick you on the other 10%. You'll be like a magnet for comments like, "uh dude your gun is wrong" or "no, MARSOC don't wear that brand of [fill in the ___________]", "your mag pouches go on the left, not on the right", "your hair is wrong, get a buzz cut" or whatever BS. So be prepared for that.

That's why most airsofters mix and match...
a) it's easier to just buy what you like
b) its cheaper, and
c) if you're 50% accurate on this and that, you won't get the nitpick comments. Because most airsofters on the field literally don't care.

Good luck on putting it all together. I guarantee you'll have fun regardless of how accurate your loadout is.
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Old 11-21-2010, 11:26 AM
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could not agree more. there is no "standard load out" that everyone actually follows. There are SOP's such as placement of maps and a med-kit (if you go down, and these items are needed, they will be in the same place on everyone, no fishing through pockets) Every one figures out what they like, what works for them, than they go from there. From SF, SEALS, MARSOC, Rangers, and down to regular infantry, MPs, Combat engineers, combat medics/ corpsman and the like from ACTIVE Duty to National Guard. For accuracy the vest and the color of the vest/ body armor are the only real things that matters for a truly accurate load out because those thing are also SOP, but rigs, and pouches are as widely varied as they are copied and mimicked (if one guy on the team tries something and others like it, then they will duplicate)

as far as a weapon goes, if you want to be truly accurate then just go with the type, attachment vary greatly as well, it is what ever works best for the shooter. many buy there own gear and throw it on if they can get it from supply (again, SF down to national guard, this holds true)

no matter what, go with what works for you, any of you because that is what the professionals do, but they also listen to "genuinely" friendly advice and criticism.
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If you're doing it as a project/hobby goal for yourself, go for it. But do it 100%. If you get every bit of gear and uniform perfect - carrying the SIG 552 kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it? Because if you're looking to get compliments or brag, the first rain drops on your parade will be "It's not correct because the weapon's different." If you think the MARSOC gear is perfect for you as far as gear, then do it. If the SIG 552 is the perfect gun for you, then carry it. But you can't have it both ways. I wouldn't know a MARSOC Marine if he kicked me in the ba11s, so I don't care one way or another. But if you plan on telling me you copied a MARSOC load out, please have it right because I'm going to take your word for it.
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Old 11-21-2010, 12:40 PM
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many buy there own gear and throw it on if they can get it from supply (again, SF down to national guard, this holds true)
To a point, if CO lets them.
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Old 11-21-2010, 03:01 PM
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The fact of the matter is that JohnGol10 is a 15 year old who knows a thing or two about military gear. He believes himself to be some sort of guru but he isn't. A lot of new members flock to him for help because he is the one who openly flaunts his knowledge.
Skate is right Ghost, he is just a 15 year old who thinks he knows everything about modern day military load outs. Now are you going to let a 15 year old tell you what a loadout should look like, or would you rather take advice from ex-military and people who are actually knowledgeable on the subject? Then listen to what the people on this forum say.
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Old 11-21-2010, 04:27 PM
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To a point, if CO lets them.

I'm talking outside the wire, most CO's never leave it and what they don't know wont hurt them, it work for the 56th SBCT and that command staff wasn't fit to lead lemmings to a cliff
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Accurate loadouts are cool and all. But when it comes down to what you need compared to what you think looks cool - you'll quickly realize that carrying around extra crap for the sheer purpose of show is a stupid thing to do. You will quickly strip to the basics that you need....

Anytime someone has come up to me and mumbled and grumbled about being accurate I tell them to STFU and to go cry to someone else. I save my accurate stitch-picking to my WW2 reenacting. Anything other than that? Fair game.
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Probably one of the best approaches to Gearwhoring - take what you will actually need and ditch the rest.
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Trust me, you want an ACOG sight on that instead of the reflex. Also, try to find the lightest, easiest way to carry your gear.
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Probably one of the best approaches to Gearwhoring - take what you will actually need and ditch the rest.
And thus the title of "Gear Whore" is made null. It's called being practical. Two different things.
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Trust me, you want an ACOG sight on that instead of the reflex. Also, try to find the lightest, easiest way to carry your gear.
Not to derail the thread, but I'd have to disagree. I'm not disagreeing to disagree - I genuinely feel that magnification is a disadvantage when it comes to aiming in airsoft. I want people to get credible information when they're reading around the boards, so elaborate on why you think it'd be better to have an ACOG than a red dot/reflex? There's never a right or wrong on personal preference, but we need to back up our opinions if we're going to supply them. Otherwise, we're just slinging non-sense to people who don't know.
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