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Old 07-15-2013, 03:42 PM
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In ohio you have to be 18 or older to buy a rifle. You have to be 21 or older in order to buy a pistol. Why is it that you are able to buy a rifle at 18 but have to be 21 to buy a pistol?
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Old 07-15-2013, 03:47 PM
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Injury with a pistol is much more common and likely than with a rifle because of many factors: Being able to point it at yourself much easier, the fact that some people carry in a holster with their weapon chambered, and many people do not have the proper training to handle an automatic pistol, so they have their fingers cut or chopped off.
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Bluntly? Because our gun laws are stupid nationally.

I've seen more older folks mishandle a handgun then I have younger people.


In theory, more crime is committed with a handgun, so making them 'illegal' till an older age would then make it 'less likely' to be used in a crime.
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I believe it may also have something to do with how easy it is to conceal one. Though the age limit in the end will probably end up not having an affect on how the weapon is used. Age does not always match maturity.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:14 PM
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My belief is if you're old enough to be issued one - then you're old enough to own one. End of story.


Same goes with NFA items.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:56 PM
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Ohio law states it.

There are very tight loopholes around the clause, but they aren't worth the time if you don't apply already. See above posts, and ask Fox about anything. Some people in private transactions now want CCW permits, too, which is bullsh*t for some of my friends who want a good used handgun and just turned 21.

My suggestion to you: Don't break any gun laws. Follow them as you can, because today's world will see you as the devil.
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Because arbitrary age requirements make sense, duh.
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Because arbitrary age requirements make sense, duh.
Rental Cars make the most sense here.
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It might have something to do with hunting as well, people hunt much more frequently with rifles than with pistols. Pistols are more often bought for self defense (I assume, this is all speculation) and lawmakers feel that you should be able to hunt animals at 18, but not purchase a gun for self defense.
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It might have something to do with hunting as well, people hunt much more frequently with rifles than with pistols. Pistols are more often bought for self defense (I assume, this is all speculation) and lawmakers feel that you should be able to hunt animals at 18, but not purchase a gun for self defense.
Makes sense.... But I hunt with an 8 inch .44!

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Anybody know what Federal law is on this? I beleive it's 18 for rifles and 21 for pistols.
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Old 07-16-2013, 05:27 AM
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Anybody know what Federal law is on this? I beleive it's 18 for rifles and 21 for pistols.
Yes, but that's just to PURCHASE from a federally licensed dealer (FFL).

You only have to be 18 to OWN a title 1 firearm, which is all non-NFA long guns (rifles and shotguns) and pistols.

This boils down to this, between 18-21, you can own a pistol, but you cannot buy it from a licensed dealer. Only through private sales between two parties or given as a gift. Of course depending on where you live, state laws may be more strict. Ohio is one such state: ORC 2923.21 Improperly furnishing firearms to minor. Here, the only exception for handgun ownership between 18-21 years old is for active law enforcement personnel.

You can reference the federal law yourself here as well: 18 USC 922. Unlawful acts
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Old 07-16-2013, 02:52 PM
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..You only have to be 18 to OWN a title 1 firearm, which is all non-NFA long guns (rifles and shotguns) and pistols...
To add to this, you only have to be 18 to BUILD a title 2 firearm. A certain member here has a letter of correspondence from the ATF confirming this. I'll let him post about it if he feels like it.
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Makes sense.... But I hunt with an 8 inch .44!

I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, buck?
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Yes, but that's just to PURCHASE from a federally licensed dealer (FFL).

You only have to be 18 to OWN a title 1 firearm, which is all non-NFA long guns (rifles and shotguns) and pistols.

This boils down to this, between 18-21, you can own a pistol, but you cannot buy it from a licensed dealer. Only through private sales between two parties or given as a gift. Of course depending on where you live, state laws may be more strict. Ohio is one such state: ORC 2923.21 Improperly furnishing firearms to minor. Here, the only exception for handgun ownership between 18-21 years old is for active law enforcement personnel.

You can reference the federal law yourself here as well: 18 USC 922. Unlawful acts
This is pretty much it. I got pulled over not long ago with my Ruger in the trunk and being the law abiding citizen I am when asked if I had anything in the car I stated I had a handgun in the trunk. When asked where I got it, I said "A gift from my dad" which is true, and the officer just put it back without any issues (I'm 20 btw). The tricky part is without a 9mm carbine of some kind I still can't buy any ammo for it on my own....My 5.45x39mm AK with a buttload of 30 round mags, yeah, that's no problem.

Frankly our laws are just stupid as hell, and no one cares to fix them because anyone who is in a position to is already over 21 and not effected by them, and if your under 21 you're just a stupid kid (Even though you're apparently smart enough to: Vote, die for our country (against your will even) drive a multi-ton projectile around busy streets packed full of people, and buy much much much more dangerous (if you wanted to use them in the wrong way) firearms like AR's AK's all the way up to a 40mm bofors (semi only of course ) but you are far to incompetent to buy .22LR from your local wal-mart....but at that same wal-mart you can get all the 12 gauge you want....

Honestly, it's just some law passed to make people 'feel' safer when in reality it does nothing. The kids from Columbine had pistols, the guy from Newtown had pistols, and if you really want them, you to can get a pistol. If someone is going out for the soul purpose of murdering people, breaking 1 more law isn't going to stop them, and it never has. But again, anyone in a position to get rid of these redundant laws has no care to do so. (Also, you can rent handguns and buy ammo for them at indoor ranges as long as you shoot them on the premises... Found that out this year during my CCW class.)
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This is pretty much it. I got pulled over not long ago with my Ruger in the trunk and being the law abiding citizen I am when asked if I had anything in the car I stated I had a handgun in the trunk. When asked where I got it, I said "A gift from my dad" which is true, and the officer just put it back without any issues (I'm 20 btw).
IMO, you got lucky, as your dad would technically be in violation of Section (A3) of 2923.21, and possibly (A7) too if he bought it with the express purpose of giving (furnishing) it to you. You were legal under the Federal law, but you dad was not under Ohio law.

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(A) No person shall do any of the following:

(1) Sell any firearm to a person who is under eighteen years of age;

(2) Subject to division (B) of this section, sell any handgun to a person who is under twenty-one years of age;

(3) Furnish any firearm to a person who is under eighteen years of age or, subject to division (B) of this section, furnish any handgun to a person who is under twenty-one years of age, except for lawful hunting, sporting, or educational purposes, including, but not limited to, instruction in firearms or handgun safety, care, handling, or marksmanship under the supervision or control of a responsible adult;

(4) Sell or furnish a firearm to a person who is eighteen years of age or older if the seller or furnisher knows, or has reason to know, that the person is purchasing or receiving the firearm for the purpose of selling the firearm in violation of division (A)(1) of this section to a person who is under eighteen years of age or for the purpose of furnishing the firearm in violation of division (A)(3) of this section to a person who is under eighteen years of age;

(5) Sell or furnish a handgun to a person who is twenty-one years of age or older if the seller or furnisher knows, or has reason to know, that the person is purchasing or receiving the handgun for the purpose of selling the handgun in violation of division (A)(2) of this section to a person who is under twenty-one years of age or for the purpose of furnishing the handgun in violation of division (A)(3) of this section to a person who is under twenty-one years of age;

(6) Purchase or attempt to purchase any firearm with the intent to sell the firearm in violation of division (A)(1) of this section to a person who is under eighteen years of age or with the intent to furnish the firearm in violation of division (A)(3) of this section to a person who is under eighteen years of age;

(7) Purchase or attempt to purchase any handgun with the intent to sell the handgun in violation of division (A)(2) of this section to a person who is under twenty-one years of age or with the intent to furnish the handgun in violation of division (A)(3) of this section to a person who is under twenty-one years of age.

(B) Divisions (A)(1) and (2) of this section do not apply to the sale or furnishing of a handgun to a person eighteen years of age or older and under twenty-one years of age if the person eighteen years of age or older and under twenty-one years of age is a law enforcement officer who is properly appointed or employed as a law enforcement officer and has received firearms training approved by the Ohio peace officer training council or equivalent firearms training.

(C) Whoever violates this section is guilty of improperly furnishing firearms to a minor, a felony of the fifth degree.

Effective Date: 03-31-1997
Your only outs here would be if a "responsible adult" were present while you possessed the handgun, or you qualify under sub-section (B) and are a LEO.
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Because a pistol has a larger range of motion and can injure you in more vital places such as the head.
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So many answers. Thank you for them and for the hunting with a .44 pistol answer
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So many answers. Thank you for them and for the hunting with a .44 pistol answer
Just remember, you can always check the laws online if you are unsure of what you're doing.
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Just remember, you can always check the laws online if you are unsure of what you're doing.
i knew you had to be a certain age. i just didnt fully understand why you had to be 18 for this or 21 for that
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Yep. Once you get super therial, you'll have to meander through the giant bee's nest of the NFA and ATF.
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