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Three years ago if someone would Ďve approached me and told me the vaccines we were giving our children were poisoned I would have let it go in one ear and out the other simply writing it off as another whacko conspiracy theorist. But then along came my son. My wife and I argued about whether or not my baby boy was going to get vaccinated. She did not want to have him vaccinated, and there was no way in hell I was going to let my little boy risk a disease which was completely preventable. Well, I got my way. But in doing so, I started researching why everyone was saying these vaccines were so dangerous when they obviously arenít. I mean we made it through them alright didnít we?

I have about 600 hours of research into the subject of vaccines now. Iíve looked at them from the good side, and the bad side. I went to libraries, I made phone calls. I looked up thimerosal in the MSDS and I looked into what the EPA has to say about the toxin. And all of a sudden I found myself believing the government was indeed lying to us.

Let me start by saying there are many conspiracy theories out there. We are not going to look at all of them, but rather just the ones where there is official documentation which can be verified, or at least a very definable reason for suspicion.

Some of the theories I will be discussing in upcoming blogs: Vaccines (of course), the Georgia Recommendation, Montauk, Philadelphia experiment, Bush/Obama connection, the Bush family, the economy and maybe a few others. I am reluctant to bring 9/11 into this discussion due to the sensitivity of the subject, but I may need to in order to tie everything together.. Let me state also, it is NOT my intent to make anyone believe in any of this. My intent is to arouse suspicion enough that you too will start asking questions.

So, stay tuned. Make sure your seatbacks and tray tables are in their upright and locked positions, itís going to be a bumpy ride.
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A Hypothetical Question.

Posted 06-21-2009 at 11:09 AM by Wraith
Let me ask you guys a hypothetical question just to see where we end up.

Letís say you (the reader) are the leader of a country. And assuming power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, you have become a corrupt leader.

Now letís say you decide one day that you want to take over the world. You know from history that a hostile takeover would be virtually impossible without being able to eliminate all major military opposition simultaneously. But then you still have the population to sway if that were possible.

So the question is this:
How would you take over the world?

There is a purpose for this question, and it is not meant to offend or upset anyone. Only to make people think.
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  1. Old
    Loki's Avatar
    1. Find a leader with enough charisma to sway people to do believe what he wants and do what he wants. (this will enable you to influence and control the non-independant (IE easily controlled) subjects)

    2. Disarm your own populace. The greatest threat to your power lies inside your own government, not outside. If you disarm your own populace, they are not as much of a threat. People will initially fight this, unless you use tragic events to push laws through (such as mall shootings and such).

    3. Once the general populace has been disarmed, the only real threats to your power internally are inside your military. Wipe out any political dissent inside the military (I don't mean kill them. Find a way to imprison them or make them seem hostile, so that the people will turn against them).

    4. Annex, invade, or otherwise take over adjacent neighbors. This can be done through backdoor political stuff (like rigging votes), although military options work as well, they are just simply more overt. Large alliances pose threats if you go with the military routes, but don't necessarily require you to change your plans, because threats would come from members of said alliance would give a damn.

    5. Rinse and repeat
    Posted 06-22-2009 at 03:10 PM by Loki Loki is offline
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    Wraith's Avatar
    Excellent! Although I have come to expect well thought out answers from you Loki.

    Now let me make one suggestion to add to your list if I may. One of the biggest motivators of the masses, fear.

    What if I were to tell you ( speaking of population) that the planet was going through global warming due to human influence and if something doesn't change, we are heading for an ice age? Would you be more likely to take my suggestions for change? What if I told you there are deadly diseases waiting on your doorstep for your child to step out unprotected? And these diseases were completely preventable by simply injecting this completely safe solution into your childs body. Would you be more likely to go have your child vaccinated? Or maybe, if I told you the economy was crashing, you would become concerned and pull your money out of the bank, thereby adding fuel to the story and actually creating the economic crash. On top of that I "create" a few trillion dollars to make you believe relief is coming, (which by adding to the money supply you drop the value of the money by the way.) only to contract the money supply to drive the dollar higher on the international market. With no relief after several months, would you start to get scared for the well being of your family? Once they are afraid, it's easy to get populations to do what you want them to by manipulation and media. No shots are ever fired, but by controling their fear, you can effectively control the masses.
    Posted 06-22-2009 at 03:14 PM by Wraith Wraith is offline
    Updated 06-22-2009 at 04:43 PM by Wraith
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    Vader's Avatar
    How would I take over the world? Here's a simple 10-step plan:

    1) Create unnecessary social programs which over time, cause the populace to become dependent on the government for survival.

    2) Modify the public education system to my party's favor, to breed future generations of mindless voters. Required reading: the writings of Saul Alinsky.

    3) Take control of the mass media, and over time, slowly degenerate the honor and integrity of supposed unbiased news sources.

    4) Take over banks and major industries on the taxpayers' dime and claim its for the greater good that the government controls things "for awhile".

    5) Destroy the time-honored tradition and value of hard work. Punish achievers with higher taxes and pay dividends to slackers who could care less about getting a job.

    6) Under the veil of "protecting the little guy" and hiding behind famous people with big mouths, create a propaganda machine that points fingers at the other party, blaming them for the world's problems.

    7) Using my newly created Media Cartel, start defining what the other party should stand for and who their leaders should be.

    8) Use legislation to shut down alternate media outlets who broadcast views that oppose me.

    9) Nationalize health care, claiming to at first offer an alternative means...then require that everyone participate in it, regardless of it's mediocrity to a private system.

    10) Use a hapless front man who has radial views but a pretty smile to be my puppet. He would have to be vain enough to think they're actually his ideas, but dumb enough to believe they would really work.
    Posted 06-22-2009 at 05:40 PM by Vader Vader is offline
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    Wraith's Avatar
    Control of technology? Being able to release a gadget which would relieve peoples suffering would go a long way in gaining popularity and trust.

    ( To ellaborate a little)

    Thomas Edison is credited for discovering and harnessing electricty. However, in the late 1870s a man by the name of Nikola Tesla came to the United States. Tesla, which looked up to Edison, approached Edison and detailed his idea for a system of power using AC current. Edison hired Tesla to update his current DC generators for 50,000 dollars. Tesla completed the project, but when he inquired about his payment, Edison was astonished saying he had made the deal in jest. He told Tesla when he became an American he would understand. Tesla, of course, quit.

    Tesla went on to become the inventor of radio and 17 other inventions. One of those being a death ray with which he claimed to be able to crack the world in half, or power it. Tesla had created a way to snatch energy out of the air and transmit it through the air. (as in no wires) He somehow done this using the earth itself as his ground circuit. With this he was able to place lightbulbs on the beach in the sand and they would come on. His technology used high pressure electricity (in excess of 200MHz) as opposed to low pressure we use today. (60Mhz) With the high pressure, if you were to touch it, it would dance across your skin and off into the atmosphere leaving you alive, although maybe feeling some discomfort.

    Now jump ahead to WWII. Germany ended up with Tesla's plans for his device and was experimenting with it. When Germany fell, the United States confiscated all of Tesla's research. It has never been released.
    Posted 06-22-2009 at 07:30 PM by Wraith Wraith is offline
    Updated 06-22-2009 at 07:59 PM by Wraith
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    Bearcat's Avatar
    Not to nit-pick, but isn't the irradication of diseases such as polio, measles and scarlet fever worth it to the general population for a minor toxin to be included in a small percentage of the overall vaccines offered? Secondarily the United States had no need to confiscate anything of Tesla's since both his workshops were in the U.S. One was in Massachusetts and the other was in Colorado. Some of his transmission towers are still standing too, if you'd ever be interested in visiting. He was just a man that was way before his time, his actual concept was not just wireless power (something being developed now by UCal Berkley if I remember off the top of my head) but also wireless audio and image transmissions globally. Also, althout Tesla came up with ideas for components found in the radio; an Italian by the name of Marconi in 1901 is credited with the patents of the radio.

    In regards to taking over the world, its about behavioral modification. Get people to truly believe that certain enactments are in their own best interest and that sort of thing. The other thing you can do is create a world-wide panic that leads to global legislation to the detriment of progress and society as a whole. In order to effectively rule over something so large as our planet you'd have to cap the economic growth and population growth, limit available living spaces and confine peoples ability to communicate with one another or travel. Loki has a good idea, so does Vader. Though realize it will be far more successful regionally.
    Posted 06-23-2009 at 08:14 AM by Bearcat Bearcat is offline
    Updated 06-23-2009 at 08:15 AM by Bearcat (grammar and punctuation errors)
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    Wraith's Avatar
    Minor toxin???

    Thimerosal is measured in parts per billion. Not the typical parts per million. I will show you how ridiculously dangerous this crap is later, but for now let's just say this: The EPA says roughly 150ppb in fish (it's the same mercury) is hazardous and should not be eaten.(A more accurate number later.) One dose of a "thimerosal free" vaccine, which has what they call only trace amounts, contains 50, 000 ppb. (and yes, I will list my sources when I address this on a later blog.) They do this by averaging it out. "one shot every six months, they figure in some other figures that supposedly mean something and come up with an averrage "only slightly above what EPA says is safe."

    This would be the equivalent of a heart patient taking their six month supply of heart medication all at once because it "averages out."

    Picking up a book on reading medical statistics really helps remove the veil. It isn't what they are telling you that you should be concerned with so much, that is a distraction. And look it up on the CDC website, the diseases where already on their way out prior to the release of the vaccines that supposedly eradicated them.

    On a side note:

    Does anyone know where George HW Bush has been working? (This makes me laugh) He works for the Carlyle Group. They invest money in defense industries, medical labs, and telecommunications. Hmmm...

    On Sept.11, 2001 the Carlyle Group (Bush included) was in a meeting with investors at the Ritz Carlton hotel in D.C.

    It's funny how everything fits together but noone has seen it.
    Here is a little conspiracy theory for you... Montauk...lol
    Posted 06-23-2009 at 03:42 PM by Wraith Wraith is offline
    Updated 06-23-2009 at 06:53 PM by Wraith
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    Wraith's Avatar
    Oh, and to address the Tesla issue,

    Tesla was osterisized(sp?) by the American scientific community. They thought he was a crackpot. So he took his ideas to Europe where he was able to sell them. It is not known whether Tesla sold Germany his plan or whether they aquired it from Russia, but it ended up in German hands.

    And when you sell something in a business deal, you no longer have rights to it. All plans are transferred. So if Tesla did sell his plans to either country he would not have had them at either of his workshops. (By the way, I would love to visit his tower someday.) Which is why we had to confiscate them. Oddly enough, you can find some of his designs which don't exist in scientific journals of his times.

    Yes, Tesla stated his best discovery was some type of microwave he discovered traveling from pole to pole. Electricity seemed to be more of a side effect to his research than his actual research. (Anyone made an anti gravity device? This is one of the types of waves he was working with.)
    Posted 06-23-2009 at 05:08 PM by Wraith Wraith is offline
    Updated 06-23-2009 at 06:18 PM by Wraith
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    Go on a shotgun rampage lol
    Posted 06-25-2009 at 03:57 PM by Hayden_ Hayden_ is offline
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    Casino's Avatar
    To the original question;
    I think Loki summed it up perfectly. Charisma plays a huge part in disarming the populace. Hitler was one of the most charismatic people of all time.

    Anyway, I think the perfect "take over the world" plan occurs in Star Wars (Just hear me out). When you think about it, George Lucas got it right in how it will probably happen. All the details that you can actually draw from those movies is incredable. I'm not saying the next Tyrant should build a build a Death Star (Not a bad idea), but look at how the people are manipulated and controlled throughout the films. It's not that far out there.

    Step 1) Become a sith (This is COMPLETELY NECESSARY!)

    Step 2) Find or create a problem to unit the populace. This problem must be epic and threatening to almost everybody.

    Step 3) Gain the trust of the people by making headway against this problem.

    Step 4) Convince them to give you complete executive power to solve the crisis.

    Step 5) Build your Death Star.

    Really though, after step 5 its in the bag. You may do whatever you want in the name of the crisis at hand. All that can be done in par with the legal system. The threat just has to be great enough, laws can always be changed.

    In Summary: People will trade their liberties for "security", whether the security is real or not.
    Posted 06-25-2009 at 06:58 PM by Casino Casino is offline
    Updated 06-26-2009 at 05:51 PM by Casino
  10. Old
    If this toxin is so dangerous, why hasn't it killed many kids? How could any of this be true when you have almost no deaths from this toxin to support your argument? Why are you blaming the government for something that happened on 9/11? I can answer this, you are scared. You don't want to believe that someone not part of the United States has not only killed many Americans in the attack, but has slipped away without being caught. I'm not trying to blame you, I'm not trying to frustrate you in a cunning way. I just want to make you think as you did to me.
    Posted 06-28-2009 at 08:50 AM by BioDemonic BioDemonic is offline
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    Lone Panther's Avatar
    Carlyle industries also invests in Dunkin Donuts and Dr. Pepper. Hmmm...
    Posted 06-28-2009 at 11:02 AM by Lone Panther Lone Panther is offline
  12. Old
    Wraith's Avatar
    LMAO

    It IS killing children, as well as giving them diseases.( And adults, the flu shot is very high in thimerosal.) When I discuss vaccines, we'll take most of the information right off the CDC website. All you have to do is look yourself. The information I have on vaccines is all documentation. There is no speculation in it. This IS happening whether anyone chooses to acknowledge it or not.

    The MSDS for ethyl mercury (thimerosal) says this:

    "In animal studies causes mental retardation and coordination diffuclties. In human studies causes severe to mild mental retardation, and coordination diffuclties."

    So why do they let it into the market? Well let's look at CDC priorities.

    CDC spends 30 million a year for the testing of vaccines. They spend 1 billion a year at promoting the vaccines.

    The National Toxicology Program (NPT) had this to say about ethyl mercury:

    " Poison by ingestion, subcutaneous, intravenous and possibly other routes. An experimental neoplastigen and teratogen. Experimental reproductive effects."

    The problem is they have no way out. If they come out and say thimerosal has caused all these problems, they have a huge civil suit on their hands that would involve most of the population and cost billions of dollars. So they can't do that. Their only way out is to simply say thimerosal doesn't work as a preservative as well as they had hoped and stop using it that way.

    Oh, and don't think our government wouldn't do this kind of thing. Anyone remember the deal with Bayer a few years ago when they knowingly sent medication over seas and infected thousands of people with HIV? Bayer, CDC, FDA and others within the government were "in the know" on that deal. It was done for profit.

    The 9/11 issue, like I said, I really don't want to dwell on it. Too sensative an issue. But I do not blame our government because I'm scared, that is hilarious. It is much scarier to think our own government done it than some outside source. No, the reason I blame certain individuals within our government is because this was already tried once by the FBI back in the 90s.

    As for the Carlyle Group investing in Dr. Pepper and Dunkin' Donuts, well, they have to eat sometime don't they? LOL, no, it is true they make other investments as does any investment firm. I merely pointed out the three which directly relates to what is going on in the world today. When the employees of Dunkin Donuts rise up and stage a revolution, I may have to add them to the list, but until then, they are not relevent to the discussion. But it was relelvent at the time I posted that point too because it had just come out that Iran may be using a western telecommunications company to spy on it's people.

    Now if we can move away from 9/11 that would be great. I don't wish to discuss it. I will discuss vaccines, but I'd like to wait for awhile on them I'm about burnt out on vaccines. I would rather do something of which all I can do is speculate. That way I can see how everyone else feels about the subject. I think I may start with Roswell. That is a good fun topic which shouldn't cause any issues with anyone.
    Posted 06-28-2009 at 11:08 AM by Wraith Wraith is offline
    Updated 06-28-2009 at 11:53 AM by Wraith
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    Trojan's Avatar
    Teslas "anti-gravity energy" machine works by positively charging the ions in the air around the top end of a thin vertical sheet of metal and negatively charging the bottom of the sheet so the air rushes down and off the sheet and creates thrust to lift the sheet. There is no "secret energy" involved. The "anti- gravity" stuff all comes from poor speculation and improper/complete lack of research and experimentation. Roswell is cool, I think it was just a weather balloon because the simplest explanation is usually the correct one (Occams razor). But I recognize other explanations as plausible (yes, including secret government experiments and aliens).
    Posted 06-29-2009 at 02:38 PM by Trojan Trojan is offline
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    Wraith's Avatar
    Completely correct Trojan. It is no secret energy. An anti gravity device is quite easy to build using a couple different methods. However, what Tesla claimed to be able to do would've opened alot more doors.

    Roswell, well I can honestly say this topic has interested the heck outta me since I was kid. I have found myself believing, then not believing. But I always come back to the same problem. How is it physically possible for a balloon, no matter what payload it was carrying, to leave a debris trail nearly a mile long and several hundred feet wide? I look at overhead pictures of plane crashes and I don't see that kind of debris field. For the site to be that long it would have had to come in at very shallow angle of attack and at incredible speed. I just don't see how a balloon could do that.

    Another problem, an officer for the Air Force first stated they had captured a flying disc. This is a guy with a college education who could probably tell the difference between a ridgid framed craft and the non ridgid frame of a balloon.

    So anyway, they come out and say it was a balloon. Move along, nothing to see here.

    Then for several years nothing had happened out there. ???? Ah, the old Jedi mind trick. How wude!

    Then it was a weather balloon again, and then, no not just a weather balloon...a super secret weather balloon. Was this super secret weather balloon constructed of lead and capable of mach speeds? That would explain why a weather balloon had to be kept secret I suppose.

    But wait, no in fact it wasn't a weather balloon at all! It was a balloon used to drop test dummys from high altitudes. Don't you people see the need for secrecy when dealing with dummys? What if the Soviets had found out about our plan to drop several Divisions worth of test dummys over Red Square flown in on our super sonic, super secret lead balloons. (Psychological warfare in the making. Problem is they kept falling out of the sky. No matter how fast we sent 'em, they just wouldn't stay up there.)

    In more recent years people have started coming forward claiming to have had inside information or to have actually been a part of the whole ordeal. I can't speak much for those people, I admit I just don't care to check a person's credentials. It's much easier to look for documents.

    An interesting point to make I guess is toward the end of WWII, there was supposed to be this "project paperclip." I am not real familiar with it or if it actually existed, but let's assume it did for a second.

    Project paperclip was the transfer of Nazi projects and scientists to US hands. As I previously stated, it was well known Germany was experimenting with Tesla's ideas. But it was also said they were working on a flying machine beyond belief. (They were not refering to the jet, we knew about it.) This supposedly happened in '45. Then we have an Unidentified Fallen Object in '47. Could the two be related?

    I have never believed the whole balloon story because it didn't make sense. Whether the object was terrestrial or not is what I have always questioned. I'm leaning more toward the terrestrial side right now, but give me a few weeks. I do believe in the extraterrestrial ufos, one supposedly crashed in Texas in the 1890s. Long before Hitler and his regime. Probably rules out terrestrial origins.
    Posted 06-29-2009 at 08:45 PM by Wraith Wraith is offline
    Updated 06-29-2009 at 10:03 PM by Wraith
 

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